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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We compared e.g. GA with Stumbleupon data and there was a difference of 17 %, so well within that 10-20% range the quoted article was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We compared e.g. GA with Stumbleupon data and there was a difference of 17 %, so well within that 10-20% range the quoted article was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.nzbase.com/google-analytics-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also read that AWstats and generally software using logfiles is not very reliable as it does not deal with all the bots cloaking as browsers very well at all. Especially those which accept cookies. And there are many: besides pixscout, websense, munax, cyveilance etc there are also tons of scrapers, spammers, botnetworks etc. 

So how easy is it actually to compare AWstats with any js based method which generally at least can ignore the above mentioned groups of &quot;fake visitors&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also read that AWstats and generally software using logfiles is not very reliable as it does not deal with all the bots cloaking as browsers very well at all. Especially those which accept cookies. And there are many: besides pixscout, websense, munax, cyveilance etc there are also tons of scrapers, spammers, botnetworks etc. </p>
<p>So how easy is it actually to compare AWstats with any js based method which generally at least can ignore the above mentioned groups of &#8220;fake visitors&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Nmaur</title>
		<link>http://www.nzbase.com/google-analytics-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Nmaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 06:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this excellent article.

I too am very interested in this subject and have just run part 1 of a test to try to quantify the delta between GA and others that measure traffic in similar ways.

How many page-views are you really getting? Part 1 – The WordPress Stats Test

http://www.synaptici.com/2010/how-many-page-views-are-you-really-getting-part-1-the-wordpress-stats-test/

Hope this is of interest and would love your feedback.

Cheers,

Gil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this excellent article.</p>
<p>I too am very interested in this subject and have just run part 1 of a test to try to quantify the delta between GA and others that measure traffic in similar ways.</p>
<p>How many page-views are you really getting? Part 1 – The WordPress Stats Test</p>
<p><a href="http://www.synaptici.com/2010/how-many-page-views-are-you-really-getting-part-1-the-wordpress-stats-test/" rel="nofollow">http://www.synaptici.com/2010/how-many-page-views-are-you-really-getting-part-1-the-wordpress-stats-test/</a></p>
<p>Hope this is of interest and would love your feedback.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Gil</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.nzbase.com/google-analytics-accuracy/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 04:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sheldon :)

I agree that the most significant use of Google Analytics is through trend analysis and that&#039;s what it has always been pushed as however I&#039;m guessing that you yourself look at specific clicks and specific keywords and specific in-bound traffic from referral sites?

This is the interesting thing. All web analytics were once used as trend analysis only however now I don&#039;t think they are.

I know I make business decisions every day that in some part rely on Google Analytics.

The question doesn&#039;t get asked often enough as to whether or not those decisions could be misguided by relying on these statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sheldon <img src='http://www.nzbase.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree that the most significant use of Google Analytics is through trend analysis and that&#8217;s what it has always been pushed as however I&#8217;m guessing that you yourself look at specific clicks and specific keywords and specific in-bound traffic from referral sites?</p>
<p>This is the interesting thing. All web analytics were once used as trend analysis only however now I don&#8217;t think they are.</p>
<p>I know I make business decisions every day that in some part rely on Google Analytics.</p>
<p>The question doesn&#8217;t get asked often enough as to whether or not those decisions could be misguided by relying on these statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Nesdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheldon Nesdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inaccuracy only matters if it changes from month to month. If it&#039;s consistent, it&#039;s not a problem. What do we mainly use Google Analytics for? Making decisions from month to month, right? Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inaccuracy only matters if it changes from month to month. If it&#8217;s consistent, it&#8217;s not a problem. What do we mainly use Google Analytics for? Making decisions from month to month, right? Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest you check out my new free tool called YMMV real web stats, which can give a Google Analytics accuracy number, but also gives you adblock and noscript information. All you need is PHP! It sounds like it should do the trick :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest you check out my new free tool called YMMV real web stats, which can give a Google Analytics accuracy number, but also gives you adblock and noscript information. All you need is PHP! It sounds like it should do the trick <img src='http://www.nzbase.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gary Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a difficult situation to be in.

I see this quite regularly however it is usually only  single figure percentage points of difference between click tracking systems and Google Analytics referrals.

Coming from the other side of the coin myself (working as a publisher) I would be saying to you that GA is not always 100% correct, that we track every click and that web statistics themselves are an imperfect science.

That holds true for a discrepancy of a few percentage points however it doesn&#039;t work with the level of difference you&#039;re looking at.

You need to ask a few questions, both of yourself and your advertisers;

- Is the click tracking system being used changing where the referral appears to be coming from? This could account for the difference in your stats.

- Are some of the clicks coming from bots, not real humans? Some publishers don&#039;t proactively remove bot traffic from click reports although respectable publishers will.

- Finally, is your Google Analytics accurate? For instance are you certain you have the code on all pages.

Hopefully that helps.

I&#039;d suggest putting in a secondary web statistics program onto your site and compare the results for a month to check that the statistics match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a difficult situation to be in.</p>
<p>I see this quite regularly however it is usually only  single figure percentage points of difference between click tracking systems and Google Analytics referrals.</p>
<p>Coming from the other side of the coin myself (working as a publisher) I would be saying to you that GA is not always 100% correct, that we track every click and that web statistics themselves are an imperfect science.</p>
<p>That holds true for a discrepancy of a few percentage points however it doesn&#8217;t work with the level of difference you&#8217;re looking at.</p>
<p>You need to ask a few questions, both of yourself and your advertisers;</p>
<p>- Is the click tracking system being used changing where the referral appears to be coming from? This could account for the difference in your stats.</p>
<p>- Are some of the clicks coming from bots, not real humans? Some publishers don&#8217;t proactively remove bot traffic from click reports although respectable publishers will.</p>
<p>- Finally, is your Google Analytics accurate? For instance are you certain you have the code on all pages.</p>
<p>Hopefully that helps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest putting in a secondary web statistics program onto your site and compare the results for a month to check that the statistics match.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very pertinent article for us. 

We&#039;ve got a product site over at www.epiphanyrisknetwork.com, we&#039;re currently disputing the data we are receiving from a major advertising site, versus the hits recorded at our end by Google Analytics.

The advertising site vendor argues that they are pushing 2-300 hits per month in our direction, yet Google Analytics has recorded only 6 of these hits arriving from their site in the same time period. Obviously, that is a significant discrepancy.

We&#039;re not expecting tens of thousands of hits, as we&#039;re offering risk management software to the enterprise market, but it is the variance between their figures and ours that is confusing here.

The ad site is a major industry player - a site with a mass of daily news articles, white papers, and other big advertisers on their site (professional services etc). They state their webstats for users etc online, and appear very credible.

However, we can&#039;t seem to reconcile how they can report a click through rate from their site to ours that is 40-50 times greater than we are seeing in our Google Analytics stats?

One of the challenges with web advertising is the lack of an independent body to oversee published stats. The newspaper industry is audited, and can published figures that are referenced against the auditing body. However, most websites can say whatever they want, and how can it be verified?

In this instance, the ad site is very credible, and has been around for a long time. So how do we account for the difference between their figures and ours?

Be very interested in your views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very pertinent article for us. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got a product site over at <a href="http://www.epiphanyrisknetwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.epiphanyrisknetwork.com</a>, we&#8217;re currently disputing the data we are receiving from a major advertising site, versus the hits recorded at our end by Google Analytics.</p>
<p>The advertising site vendor argues that they are pushing 2-300 hits per month in our direction, yet Google Analytics has recorded only 6 of these hits arriving from their site in the same time period. Obviously, that is a significant discrepancy.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not expecting tens of thousands of hits, as we&#8217;re offering risk management software to the enterprise market, but it is the variance between their figures and ours that is confusing here.</p>
<p>The ad site is a major industry player &#8211; a site with a mass of daily news articles, white papers, and other big advertisers on their site (professional services etc). They state their webstats for users etc online, and appear very credible.</p>
<p>However, we can&#8217;t seem to reconcile how they can report a click through rate from their site to ours that is 40-50 times greater than we are seeing in our Google Analytics stats?</p>
<p>One of the challenges with web advertising is the lack of an independent body to oversee published stats. The newspaper industry is audited, and can published figures that are referenced against the auditing body. However, most websites can say whatever they want, and how can it be verified?</p>
<p>In this instance, the ad site is very credible, and has been around for a long time. So how do we account for the difference between their figures and ours?</p>
<p>Be very interested in your views?</p>
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		<title>By: vans</title>
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		<dc:creator>vans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be a big difference across sites comparing server side counts, and client side (google analytics). For example visits across a shared ip by multiple users wouldn&#039;t be picked up as easily by servers but using cookies analytics packages can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be a big difference across sites comparing server side counts, and client side (google analytics). For example visits across a shared ip by multiple users wouldn&#8217;t be picked up as easily by servers but using cookies analytics packages can.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, 50% sounds inordinately high however the developer I was talking to is very talented and deeply involved in online metrics.

My guess is that the 50% level might come up where there is a blanked assumption that does not correlate between the two systems e.g. something like a report on one analytics tool that includes uniques matched across different sub-domains when they are treated as separate  on another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, 50% sounds inordinately high however the developer I was talking to is very talented and deeply involved in online metrics.</p>
<p>My guess is that the 50% level might come up where there is a blanked assumption that does not correlate between the two systems e.g. something like a report on one analytics tool that includes uniques matched across different sub-domains when they are treated as separate  on another.</p>
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